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CHAPTER 5
 Be True to Yourself

Seeing that Religion will take me the rest of my life to attack, probe, and question, I have decided to continue on with yet another topic of discussion. This is something I have seen happening again and again. This "Mid-Life Crisis" some of us have heard so much about, exists, in all its entirety. I hope by reading about other accounts by women I have come across, those of you hoping to deceive yourselves, live a lie, and conform to someone else's ideas and ideals, you might want to consider these first.

             These accounts I am obtaining from a Group of Lesbians on MSN. The question is asked to the group:

 "How hard was it for you to start coming out of your closets and allow yourself the freedom of living the lesbian life???  Did you have to sacrifice yourself to family rejections...(maybe having to let your love ones close the door on you as a family member, because you chose to live the lesbian life)??   Did you lose jobs over your sexuality?  Have you been verbally attacked and put down??  Have you gone through the intense struggle of leaving a husband or boyfriend to become who you really want to be??  Have you been beat up over it or lost a home because of who you are??  

Can you share the sacrifice you endured to gain freedom for your true desires for the same sex...

Can you share your struggles??   I'm sure it would be so very much appreciated to those who are struggling at this time in their lives... A lot of sisters need another sister to put out their hand and support them thru those scary & confusing closet doors..."

 The replies:

 From Vixen:

"...I can relate to the denial question you are posing...I guess the denial I feel is when I look into the eyes of my husband and children and realize how much it would hurt them if I decided to go full into my desires....then I spin like the inside of a Tornado and feel like Dorothy searching for those ruby slippers.  If I did venture into the arena that my incredible energy is taking me...(love, lust, infatuation, intrigue, the thrill of being different, hormone imbalance, etc)...would I wish I could be back on the farm with Auntie Em where things were simple again.  It's a major choice to make...and I suppose if I were miserable in my life now with my family...it would be an easy choice...but I love my family...I just wish I could take a couple of months to try this "on" and see if it was truly worth letting go of my little world of "denial".

    I would be giving so much up if I were to walk away from my current life style.  My husband is madly in love with me...(almost sad) but it is a very secure feeling.  I think the biggest thing for me is there is no "thrill", "excitement", and it's too boring.  My end of the conversation with my husband is usually, "Uh Huh"..."Uh Huh"...No stimulation.  I sometimes feel like a spoiled brat expecting so much more when I have so much love already.  Don't get me wrong...I don't ask for anything, my husband gives because he is trying to preserve our marriage."

A Question of the Need or the Want in general by "Vixen".

"Loving someone or being in love with someone...There is such a dramatic difference.  Falling in love, brings with it all of the magical energy and hormone chemistry that we all look for in ever addiction...from coffee to alcohol...The level of euphoria we feel when we indulge in something keeps us coming back for more...Being in love is by far the most wonderful addiction I can imagine having...'Hello, my name is ____ and I am in love."..  The full circle of love, where you sacrifice for someone...and you work to support or nurture or encourage another through life...unconditionally..is something else.  It is very difficult to be in Sacrificial, unconditional love...and then fall in love with someone else...the most difficult part is to recognize that the feeling of "falling in love" is temporary..while the unconditional love will be there even if your face breaks out or you gain a few pounds.  I think every one should have the pure pleasure of falling in love...however, I pity the person who falls in love...and looses that love...only to live with the ghost of that love forever (I pity myself)...It's an agonizing ecstasy.  Especially when it is left in the realm of "If only, What if, "...an undone fantasy...If the fantasy were allowed to play out..it may result in the disillusionment of reality.  The true color would distort the rainbow.  Love is beautiful...being in love is bliss."

  Reply to Vixen from Islandgrrl.

"...your story breaks my heart.  I understand that you don't want to hurt your husband but I want you to ask yourself how much hurt you are willing to endure for his sake and whether or not you feel that is fair.  Anyone who truly loves you will want you to be happy and although this may not happen immediately it will happen.  If it doesn't then perhaps the other's needs are a little selfish.  You are apparently willing to ignore some very powerful feelings in order to avoid hurting your husband.   How many others are being hurt as a result of you not exploring this?  He may be doing his own 'work' but what I see is an awful lot of energy going into a 25 page letter that will only benefit him.  Your kids are practically grown...how do you want to spend the rest of your life?  I was married and left him in 1987 for a woman.  I would love to say she and I are still together, but instead I will say that my richest experiences and relationships have been in the past 15 years, and with women.  I will also say that these relationships withstood the pain of breaking up and a strong friendship remained because, I believe, they were relationships of substance and growth.  I wish you all good things.  Follow your heart."

Does Age Really Matter?

Since there are continuing group discussions in this forum, I decided to yet again post a question and the responses to this question. This might be or become another issue for some of you, and I hope this will provide some more insight if you're an 18 year old in love with oh lets say, a 28 year old? For maturity purposes, I personally dont think this is wise, but lets say a 25-year-old with a 35-year-old. Doesnt sound as bad, does it? It's all perspective and different levels of maturity I think, but here are what some other womyn have to say about it.

The Question:

Hey ladies,

Haven't been to the site for awhile. Ended a 5 yr. relationship in June and it took it's toll on me. Anyway I wanted to get a little of advice from you wonderful ladies. I have met someone that I have developed very strong feelings for. I guess you could say I'm in love again. I would be lying to say that I'm not afraid but the real issue is this. She is 17 years younger than me and even though she says it doesn't matter I can't help but feel a little apprehensive about it. Would love to hear your input on this.

The Answers:

There is ten years difference between "Jane Doe" and I (she is older) and we haven't had a problem, unless you want to count the time someone thought she was my mother LOL. We had a good laugh about that one. I knew I wanted an older woman, most of the women my age that I was meeting just didn't do it for me. I wanted someone I could talk to. It's not the age thing that is a problem, it's how you see it. If you are truly in love, it won't matter, and if someone else had a problem, well then that is their problem, not yours.

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Age differences are really only something you have to wrap your head around personally, as soon as you get comfortable with it, life flows the way it is meant to. I speak from experience. The furthest age difference I have enjoyed was 26 years. The woman involved was 23 and finally coming out and I was 49. It was a wonderful summer together and the only reason it ended was because she had to go to Ottawa for medical school and I stayed in BC near my children and grandchildren. It did take me about 3 - 4 weeks to work up the nerve to tell her I was attracted to her, because she is younger than both my daughters by 2 and 4 years. Once she shared that it was a mutual attraction we were "away to the races" as they say.

This isn't the only relationship that I've had with several years age difference, others were 14 (she was older) and 12 (younger) years apart and several 5's (most of them younger). Enjoy your partner for her energy levels if they outweigh yours, contribute your life experience wisdoms for your part. I really encourage you not to get hung up on a number, look at the qualities you enjoy in your partner and live your life together to the fullest, celebrating your diversity!

Wish you well.

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I also met a couple that was 21/33, and the 33 yr old told me how she felt about the 21 yr old. "I am scared. I am. But I love her. I'm willing to wait for her..." The 21 year old would say, "I want you to meet my girl! She's 33 today! I'm in love with her..." They are waiting. Or the 33 year old is waiting, waiting for the 21 to mature/gain more knowledge...experience before solidifying the relationship.

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Feeling apprehensive? As well you should. It doesn't matter if she's 18 and you're 35 or if SHE is 35 and you're 52. You KNOW you're in an ill-fated situation. Perhaps you don't have a large population of women your age to choose from and this younger kid, woman, person makes you feel primal urges that you hadn't been in touch with for a long time....whatever the reason, the longer you're in THIS dead-end relationship, the older you're getting and wasting some of your youth that you could be sharing with someone closer in age. Women closer in age that you could possibly be interested in are becoming unavailable because THEY'RE dating women born in the same decade. So this current fling lasts a year or two....do you really think this young thing is gonna want to sit home and have hot cocoa with you and watch Murder She Wrote reruns with you? Do you really think she's going to come shave your moustache when you're in a nursing home? You're a mature woman and you already know the answer to your question. Get out now and cut your losses. Good luck, get off the computer and get involved in organizations in your area. There are all kinds of delightful women out there. ~ "One"

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Dear One,

I have to disagree with your response to Facing..'s question. I think that it totally depends upon the specific women involved, and that you have generalized your response. Have you suffered from a negative relationship involving a large age discrepancy?

My feelings are that if the women involved communicate and live their relationship on a mutual basis with respect towards each other, age should not be an issue. Perhaps I am biased in the direction opposite yourself. I have recently met another woman who is 26 years younger than me and find myself attracted and I want to learn more about her and see what can happen. The sorts of questions I ask myself going into relationship are "What do we have in common?", "Can we be independent of each other and yet supportive of each other?" "Are we both truly attracted to each other, is there mutual respect?" and on......

It is nice to dream of having a relationship that lasts the rest of your life, and I certainly was very oriented towards that at one time, focused on making it past the number of years my ex-husband and I were together. As time moves on I find myself opening to whomever is sent my way without restrictive thoughts that this particular relationship has to last forever. Don't get me wrong, it would be lovely to have a fantastically wonderful long term relationship, but I'm definitely starting to live more in the moment and enjoy what I have when I have it. And when I don't have it, I have my memories.

Sincerely,

"bee"

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Hey, I saw that you were asking for advice if age makes a difference in a relationship. I would have to say no it does not at least in Lois and my relationship. Lois and I have been together for almost 5 years (feb 14 aniversery) and there is a huge age difference between the two of us.. I am 25 and Lois is 44. We have not had a problem. ~ "Aut"

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Again, this topic looks to be a great issue of discussion. I have to keep checking the web page about every other day just to keep up with it. I will have to say, leave this issue to the morals and/or ideas of you and your "prospective" partner. What's funny was that earlier tonight, I get a call from my mom telling me to turn on the TV. On the public broadcasting channel they were discussing gay issues, most of which concerned gays in the military. They also mentioned a woman by the name of "Stormie". (Sorry if thats the improper spelling of her name, I'm going by what I heard). She has been around longer than the Stonewall incident of 1969. She's an independent, lesbian, some believe she was one of the people who fought back against the cops at Stonewall. They say she is a hero, a role model for other lesbians, and a fighter. She is 80 years old and still helping at a local lesbian bar. She mentioned a comment that stuck with me. Not on the topic of age, but actually about homophobia. However, I think you can apply it to anything you want. "Its mind over matter. If you dont mind, it dont matter."

"I shall pass through this world but once; any good thing therefore I can do, or any kindness I can show to any human being or living thing LET ME DO IT NOW. LET ME NOT DEFER IT NOR NEGLECT IT, FOR I shall not PASS THIS WAY AGAIN." ~ S.Grellet

Whatever a person decides they decide based on a belief. Whether or not this belief was pre-formed or acquired, it is something that should always be left solely up to an individual. The way I have to see it is, "Hey, I feel like a met a soulmate, but for whatever reason, I am not suppose to be with them" I have to give it to 'God', or that higher power and trust that whatever that is suppose to happen, will. Too many things have happened already for me to pass them off as coincidences.

I will leave age issues alone for now, to expand more on our terminology. I get confused myself between transvestite, transgender, transsexual or Trans...anything. And I dont want to offend anyone. So here is something I picked up again from my Gay Support group.

This information was taken in part from The AEGIS Transition Series, @ 1991, American Educational Gender Information Service, Decatur, GA.

Terminology:

Transgender: This is an encompassing term for crossdressers, transvestites, and transsexuals or to their overall community. In Short: This is all those that are TRANS-anything.

Transsexual : This is described as an individual who is unhappy with the sex assignment made at birth. I guess this is the clique, "I am a male in a woman's body" or visa versa. These people will change their body to be as much as possible like that of the opposite sex. Changes are accomplished through Hormonal Sex Reassignment, and surgery. This process is regulated by the Standards of Care and takes several years to complete. In Short: Whatever sex you were born with, you are the opposite in your mind. So, you do anything you can to be what you are in your mind. However, this is like a permanent sex change. This requires one to go through doctors, psychotherapists, and years of living in that sex prior to actually going through surgery.

Transvestite: 1) Anyone who dresses in the clothes assigned by society to the opposite sex for emotional reasons. 2). Anyone who expresses transgender feelings or actions yet still maintains at least a partial gender identity that matches their physical sex. In Short: Same as a transsexual, but does not go through the actual sex change/complete overhaul of becoming that other sex.

Crossdresser: 1) A person who wears the clothes socially acceptable for the opposite sex. 2) Transsexuals do not consider themselves Crossdressers or Transvestites.

Drag Queen: A male crossdresser who wears dramatic clothes, makeup, and has mannerisms of females - often for other's entertainment in shock value.

Bigendered: Someone who that displays gender of masculine and feminine identities.

Transgendered Groups

International Federation for Gender Education   (IFGE)

P.O. Box 367 

Wayland, MA 01778 

(617) 889-2212. 

(Puts out a catalogue of books, pamphlets of interest to transgendered people and those interested in transgendered issues.)

American Educational Gender Information Service (AEGIS)

P.O. Box 33724

Decatur, GA 30333

(404) 939-0244. 

(They staff a Help Line, publish pamphlets, and have general info)

Renaissance Education Association, Inc.

P.O. Box 60552

King of Prussia, PA 19406 

(610) 630-1437

(They have chapters in 6 states, holds meetings specifically for non-transgendered people who want to know about transgenderism).

Society for the Second Self (Tri-Ess)

8880 Bellaire B2 #104

Houston, TX 77026

(713) 988-8064

(Group for male cross-dressers, has 26 chapters, inclusive of family and friends.)

 

 

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